Thursday, February 07, 2008

Is he interested in persuasion, or does he just want to fling poo?

Jason from Yearning to Breathe Free has kicked up quite a stir on the SOB Alliance LISTSERV over the past few days. Specifically, he's quite aggressively accused conservatives of various dastardly policy positions. To wit:

Poo-flinging monkeyThe biggest irony here is that most people on this list (and I'm open to correction on this point, but I'm speaking from my general sense of things) are pro-war. They completely endorse and approve of the idea that we should have a military presence all around the globe, which should stand ready to kill anyone the President points at (WITHOUT a congressional declaration of war) without hesitation, upon being offer the flimsiest of excuses.

Most people on this list would be completely at ease with unleashing the dogs of war upon businessmen and other property owners who engage in consensual capitalistic acts with tan-skinned, non-english speaking people who haven't asked for permission from some pencil pushing bureaucrat to be able to mow a lawn, re-roof a house, or pick some lettuce.


Its most of the people on this list that are just chomping at the bit to use the State to impose their values upon others.

At least I'm using words and not guns, like the State does.


The problem with this little piece is that is assumes that all property in the US is owned collectively, by "us" which "we" can govern how its used.

What do you call that kind of system?

Yep! Communism.

Keep on rockin, Comrade!

And more:

If you buy that perpetual war and empire are conservative values (they're not)... then I would challenge you to find one issue on which Ron Paul is less conservative than any of the other main candidates.

I invite our new colleague Jason to elaborate on his accusation that conservative SOB-ers have displayed communistic / socialistic / authoritarian tendencies. Hopefully he can do it passionately and persuasively ... and without empty rhetorical grandstanding and ad hominem attacks.


Libertarian Jason said...

I go into many of these issues on my own blog on a regular basis. But I'm always willing to discuss and defend these accusations.

Poo Flinger

Alo Konsen said...

The floor's yours.

Libertarian Jason said...

Were you looking for me to expand on those comments?

Alo Konsen said...


Anonymous said...

To whom reads this:

I like this SOB alliance blog. Its nice.

I did read this post, but I'm wondering if what this libertarian Jason guy says is true.
Some questions:

Are most conservatives in this blog sphere seemingly pro war?

I consider myself a constitutionalist (I don't care this silly online dictionary has it underlined in red) by all means, and I don't see where the executive branch is getting all this power? Article II, section II...?

That certainly doesn't say anything about Bush's formal written agreements in accordance with the Security and Prosperity of North American... (

I mean who cares about homeland security department's feeble attempts at national security around boarders, when there is talk rather written agreements about assimilating our identification systems, voiding any prior laws pertaining to illegal immigration (no fines, no confinement, and no checks by the legislative branch), and merging of our economies?

I understand any American's sentiments for economic growth and international relations, but where do you draw the line?

This goes to show how our legislative branch is and has been failing us. Where are the "checks and balances" going?

I'd have to say that both parties are rife with corruption to some degree--more so in some than others. (This is to make note of Mr. Clinton's surreptitious reign of U.N. assimilations.)

This is no way to keep a republic, a limited democracy, and without some cracking down on these sorts of behaviors, Americans won't have any control over this government.

Thanks for reading,
Orion M. M.